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        Old 12-05-2020, 10:06 PM   #421
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        Good for you. What are you working as now btw? There are some people who are so bad that they donít want to do anything simpler, like designing DB or writing some functions...
        Still looking for a job that I won't regret...how about you?
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        Old 14-05-2020, 11:00 AM   #422
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        Still looking for a job that I won't regret...how about you?
        just curious, which batch are you from?
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        Old 15-05-2020, 04:59 PM   #423
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        Just went for interview, it really is a get to know more about you session. They want to see the level of interest you hold and how much you are willing to commit towards learning.
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        Old 15-05-2020, 06:22 PM   #424
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        Hi guys. I took the test on Tuesday 5th May and have not heard back with regarding to an interview. I was wondering if anyone from the Tuesday test had heard back? Thanks
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        Old 15-05-2020, 08:18 PM   #425
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        I did the test on Tuesday and was lucky enough to get the invitation for the interview this morning.
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        Old 15-05-2020, 11:09 PM   #426
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        Did my test on 5 May. Received invitation for interview this morning.
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        Old 16-05-2020, 10:59 PM   #427
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        For those who got shortlisted for interview, could I just ask how you all found out the aptitude test? Did you all manage to finish all 50 questions very confidently within timeframe?
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        Old 17-05-2020, 02:16 AM   #428
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        for my aptitude test, i barely manage to finish the questions after deliberately skimping the diagram section. I feel that you need to have a certain score to get shortlisted for interview.
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        Old 19-05-2020, 11:01 AM   #429
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        Who else who gave test on 29 April got email for interview?
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        Old 19-05-2020, 03:02 PM   #430
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        Who else who gave test on 29 April got email for interview?
        In this thread there earliest test date mentioned was 30 April and some of us got interviewed. I did the test on 30 April and received an invitation on 12 May for an interview on 15 May.

        There are probably many applicants out there eyeing this thread but not joining in. There might be applicants who got interview invitations more than 12 days after their test and received an invitation anyway.
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        Old 19-05-2020, 07:55 PM   #431
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        Are we allowed pen and paper for the test?
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        Old 19-05-2020, 08:58 PM   #432
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        Are you from SA50 batch??
        Earlier batch.
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        Old 19-05-2020, 09:24 PM   #433
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        I am asking questions about sleeping partner due to bad experience that occur to me back in my uni days. Yes people pay a lump sum of money and lose their source of income to take the job, but still there are people with self entitled mentality who really screw other people up and always make last minute comment and contribution when work is submitted.

        I have no issue accepting people with low contribution due to constant struggle on technical knowledge, but many who are contributing really do not like people who did not try to learn at all.
        There will be members in your team who contribute less, but I would say most of the people in the course take the course with the best intentions.

        Most beginners are not going to know how to build a web application from scratch. Or how to work in a team, to build up a codebase.

        Lets say I want to build a simple application with CRUD functionality (Create, Read, Update, Delete)

        You will face questions like:
        So how would the group start working on this? What are the tasks that each member would be assigned? What are the tasks that we need to prioritize first, as the other tasks are dependent on this task being done?

        Also questions like:
        How do we ensure code quality when the tasks get merged into the code repository? What will be the source control strategy (Read up on Git and Branching strategies for more details)?

        Another good starting point would be for a more technical person to provide boilerplate code for the other members to refer to. So the tasks that are assigned to the team members will now just be ways to add on to the code base by tweak the boilerplate code, as opposed to the team member having to start from scratch. And no, the less technically inclined members will have zero clue how to start from scratch and will hinder work progress. So it is pointless to complain about members who were set out to fail from the start.

        So yeah, you will sometimes meet team members who really don't give a **** about their work. But most of the time, beginners will have very little idea about how to work in a group to produce a workable web application. Ideally, someone in the group can act as the mentor to provide guidance, and to ensure that things move in a way that allows the team to achieve their goal.

        This would include debugging issues, providing guidance to members, ensuring code merged into code base is of workable quality, splitting the tasks in a way that each member can handle their respective workloads, keeping track of project deadlines and ensuring that the work meets the user/project requirements.

        You will see teams that can work like this, and teams where one or two technical people does all the work.
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        Old 19-05-2020, 10:31 PM   #434
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        There will be members in your team who contribute less, but I would say most of the people in the course take the course with the best intentions.

        Most beginners are not going to know how to build a web application from scratch. Or how to work in a team, to build up a codebase.

        Lets say I want to build a simple application with CRUD functionality (Create, Read, Update, Delete)

        You will face questions like:
        So how would the group start working on this? What are the tasks that each member would be assigned? What are the tasks that we need to prioritize first, as the other tasks are dependent on this task being done?

        Also questions like:
        How do we ensure code quality when the tasks get merged into the code repository? What will be the source control strategy (Read up on Git and Branching strategies for more details)?

        Another good starting point would be for a more technical person to provide boilerplate code for the other members to refer to. So the tasks that are assigned to the team members will now just be ways to add on to the code base by tweak the boilerplate code, as opposed to the team member having to start from scratch. And no, the less technically inclined members will have zero clue how to start from scratch and will hinder work progress. So it is pointless to complain about members who were set out to fail from the start.

        So yeah, you will sometimes meet team members who really don't give a **** about their work. But most of the time, beginners will have very little idea about how to work in a group to produce a workable web application. Ideally, someone in the group can act as the mentor to provide guidance, and to ensure that things move in a way that allows the team to achieve their goal.

        This would include debugging issues, providing guidance to members, ensuring code merged into code base is of workable quality, splitting the tasks in a way that each member can handle their respective workloads, keeping track of project deadlines and ensuring that the work meets the user/project requirements.

        You will see teams that can work like this, and teams where one or two technical people does all the work.
        imo, this post has been the most accurate for me regarding the course.

        Although the course is titled "Systems Analysis", make no mistake: there is a lot of heavy coding involved. There are tons of frameworks and libraries to use, different ways to achieve an objective, and above all, working together in a team of misfits(I really think this is the best term to use because each team has so many nationalities and varying levels of proficiency among its members) to create a workable product.

        It was certainly the toughest period for me in my education; I don't even think I felt that bad in undergrad or jc. And I just cannot over-emphasize how difficult the course was for someone(me) who only knew C# as a musical note and not as a programming language.

        It was after this course that I reasoned that upskilling was not always possible, as much as the government talks about it. Some things are just not upskillable if you don't have the aptitude and determination. This course is one of them.
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        Old 20-05-2020, 03:11 AM   #435
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        I understood that people who came into this course without development skills tends to have completely no clue on how to contribute to the team, i am really fine with such teammates.

        One way to make those newbie contribute towards the team is to provide boilerplate code and try to create or edit functions along the way. That is one solution, but it is also not easy for the other students who can cope with the course to help guide the newbie also.

        Just curious, how do you all practice agile during the course period? Cause using git alone for code merge between team members isnt enough. For example, is there scrum methodology being practiced so that the task assigned by each players is being labelled clearly, or any other form of project management tool?
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